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> <channel><title>Comments on: In One Insanely Misguided Stroke, Bizarro Nutter Returns And Re-Ignites The Decades-Dormant Hefty/Wimpy Debate</title> <atom:link href="http://www.philebrity.com/2009/03/05/in-one-insanely-misguided-stroke-bizarro-nutter-returns-and-re-ignites-the-decades-dormant-heftywimpy-debate/feed/" rel="self" type="application/rss+xml" /><link>http://www.philebrity.com/2009/03/05/in-one-insanely-misguided-stroke-bizarro-nutter-returns-and-re-ignites-the-decades-dormant-heftywimpy-debate/</link> <description>philly&#039;s longest-standing cityblog</description> <lastBuildDate>Sun, 12 Feb 2012 02:04:06 +0000</lastBuildDate> <sy:updatePeriod>hourly</sy:updatePeriod> <sy:updateFrequency>1</sy:updateFrequency> <generator>http://wordpress.org/?v=3.2.1</generator> <item><title>By: philatrash</title><link>http://www.philebrity.com/2009/03/05/in-one-insanely-misguided-stroke-bizarro-nutter-returns-and-re-ignites-the-decades-dormant-heftywimpy-debate/comment-page-1/#comment-9716</link> <dc:creator>philatrash</dc:creator> <pubDate>Fri, 06 Mar 2009 13:04:23 +0000</pubDate> <guid
isPermaLink="false">http://www.philebrity.com/?p=20065#comment-9716</guid> <description>Patricio, I&#039;m against the BPT as much as you are.  I&#039;m particularly angry over the fact that the city revenue department wants to start taxing the &quot;unrelated business income&quot; of nonprofits, so pretty much they want to supercede the guidelines that the IRS has already defined. So a small theater that sells twelve candy bars at intermission as a service to their patrons will have to calculate taxes on this.  Or a low-income housing agency will have to start ponying up.  The point is, the city is looking in all the wrong places instead of going to the obvious: the Eagles, tax delinquents, suspending the tax abatement program, and other creative ways of doing business.All I&#039;m trying to say is that Stubborn Nutter could have trimmed the fat elsewhere.  I did hear all sides of the library argument, so don&#039;t condescend me back like I&#039;m some one-sided ignorant idealist.  I really do care very deeply about my city and my opinions don&#039;t just drop at a moment&#039;s notice.  Was there an argument there on the pro-library side?  Of course.  But the whole thing just looked like a PR nightmare - especially when the main branch is spending tens of millions to spruce up.  I have my opinion, you have yours.</description> <content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>Patricio, I&#8217;m against the BPT as much as you are.  I&#8217;m particularly angry over the fact that the city revenue department wants to start taxing the &#8220;unrelated business income&#8221; of nonprofits, so pretty much they want to supercede the guidelines that the IRS has already defined. So a small theater that sells twelve candy bars at intermission as a service to their patrons will have to calculate taxes on this.  Or a low-income housing agency will have to start ponying up.  The point is, the city is looking in all the wrong places instead of going to the obvious: the Eagles, tax delinquents, suspending the tax abatement program, and other creative ways of doing business.</p><p>All I&#8217;m trying to say is that Stubborn Nutter could have trimmed the fat elsewhere.  I did hear all sides of the library argument, so don&#8217;t condescend me back like I&#8217;m some one-sided ignorant idealist.  I really do care very deeply about my city and my opinions don&#8217;t just drop at a moment&#8217;s notice.  Was there an argument there on the pro-library side?  Of course.  But the whole thing just looked like a PR nightmare &#8211; especially when the main branch is spending tens of millions to spruce up.  I have my opinion, you have yours.</p> ]]></content:encoded> </item> <item><title>By: julie.t</title><link>http://www.philebrity.com/2009/03/05/in-one-insanely-misguided-stroke-bizarro-nutter-returns-and-re-ignites-the-decades-dormant-heftywimpy-debate/comment-page-1/#comment-9713</link> <dc:creator>julie.t</dc:creator> <pubDate>Fri, 06 Mar 2009 03:28:38 +0000</pubDate> <guid
isPermaLink="false">http://www.philebrity.com/?p=20065#comment-9713</guid> <description>amen, Patricio. and for those interested, here&#039;s info on the city budget forums, where they lay out exactly the cuts being looked at: http://www.gse.upenn.edu/node/725(go to &quot;Budget worksheet&quot;, all the way at the bottom; it&#039;s a PDF)</description> <content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>amen, Patricio. and for those interested, here&#8217;s info on the city budget forums, where they lay out exactly the cuts being looked at: <a
href="http://www.gse.upenn.edu/node/725" rel="nofollow">http://www.gse.upenn.edu/node/725</a></p><p>(go to &#8220;Budget worksheet&#8221;, all the way at the bottom; it&#8217;s a PDF)</p> ]]></content:encoded> </item> <item><title>By: Patricio</title><link>http://www.philebrity.com/2009/03/05/in-one-insanely-misguided-stroke-bizarro-nutter-returns-and-re-ignites-the-decades-dormant-heftywimpy-debate/comment-page-1/#comment-9712</link> <dc:creator>Patricio</dc:creator> <pubDate>Thu, 05 Mar 2009 23:14:50 +0000</pubDate> <guid
isPermaLink="false">http://www.philebrity.com/?p=20065#comment-9712</guid> <description>To Philatrash, if I&#039;m a business owner (small or big), why would I start or relocate my business to Philadelphia?  If I&#039;m a business owner I&#039;m going to look at Philadelphia&#039;s taxes and totallly back the fuck up.  I&#039;m sure the crowd at the PBS thingy are going to say they would rather pay more in taxes then have services cut.  In all honesty its like when people say they care about the environment but when they get in the voting booth its the last concern they have when they pull the lever.  I&#039;m not completely anti-tax, I&#039;m only seriously against the wage tax and the BPT.For a second there you made me regret saying &quot;bonehead&quot; but then I read your little smug response about the rational reasons for the proposed closures.  I&#039;m not going to waste my time on someone who is going to be so arbitrary.  Instead you should&#039;ve listened to Mark-Allan Hughes and Andrew Altman give public (you know...in front of the public)speeches for the reasoning behind it.C., I agree about City Hall but how about I up the ante and say they consolidate space in City Hall and put additional office space up for the private sector.
Oh yeah and I&#039;ve got a good 3 years over Larry.</description> <content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>To Philatrash, if I&#8217;m a business owner (small or big), why would I start or relocate my business to Philadelphia?  If I&#8217;m a business owner I&#8217;m going to look at Philadelphia&#8217;s taxes and totallly back the fuck up.  I&#8217;m sure the crowd at the PBS thingy are going to say they would rather pay more in taxes then have services cut.  In all honesty its like when people say they care about the environment but when they get in the voting booth its the last concern they have when they pull the lever.  I&#8217;m not completely anti-tax, I&#8217;m only seriously against the wage tax and the BPT.</p><p>For a second there you made me regret saying &#8220;bonehead&#8221; but then I read your little smug response about the rational reasons for the proposed closures.  I&#8217;m not going to waste my time on someone who is going to be so arbitrary.  Instead you should&#8217;ve listened to Mark-Allan Hughes and Andrew Altman give public (you know&#8230;in front of the public)speeches for the reasoning behind it.</p><p>C., I agree about City Hall but how about I up the ante and say they consolidate space in City Hall and put additional office space up for the private sector.</p><p>Oh yeah and I&#8217;ve got a good 3 years over Larry.</p> ]]></content:encoded> </item> <item><title>By: philatrash</title><link>http://www.philebrity.com/2009/03/05/in-one-insanely-misguided-stroke-bizarro-nutter-returns-and-re-ignites-the-decades-dormant-heftywimpy-debate/comment-page-1/#comment-9709</link> <dc:creator>philatrash</dc:creator> <pubDate>Thu, 05 Mar 2009 21:55:16 +0000</pubDate> <guid
isPermaLink="false">http://www.philebrity.com/?p=20065#comment-9709</guid> <description>Sure, there are some unnecessary expenses in City Hall.  And those should most certainly be cut.  if I can find a link, I will be sure to post.C the Impaler, great points, for sure.  And this is the kind of stuff that everyday Philly residents clamored for at the city budget workshops to not be cut.  Sure, our taxes are high.  I grimace everytime I look at my earnings vs. what I actually get on pay day.  But in the end, as cheesy as it sounds, I love Philly, and don&#039;t want my city to fall even more into ruin.  I think it&#039;s pretty awesome when residents feel so strongly about their neighborhoods that they too would sacrifice a few dollars more for the good of the city.But what Nutter SHOULD do is demand back taxes owed to the city, put the tax abatement program on hold until we clear the recession, and send an invoice to those scumbag Eagles.</description> <content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>Sure, there are some unnecessary expenses in City Hall.  And those should most certainly be cut.  if I can find a link, I will be sure to post.</p><p>C the Impaler, great points, for sure.  And this is the kind of stuff that everyday Philly residents clamored for at the city budget workshops to not be cut.  Sure, our taxes are high.  I grimace everytime I look at my earnings vs. what I actually get on pay day.  But in the end, as cheesy as it sounds, I love Philly, and don&#8217;t want my city to fall even more into ruin.  I think it&#8217;s pretty awesome when residents feel so strongly about their neighborhoods that they too would sacrifice a few dollars more for the good of the city.</p><p>But what Nutter SHOULD do is demand back taxes owed to the city, put the tax abatement program on hold until we clear the recession, and send an invoice to those scumbag Eagles.</p> ]]></content:encoded> </item> <item><title>By: C. The Impaler</title><link>http://www.philebrity.com/2009/03/05/in-one-insanely-misguided-stroke-bizarro-nutter-returns-and-re-ignites-the-decades-dormant-heftywimpy-debate/comment-page-1/#comment-9708</link> <dc:creator>C. The Impaler</dc:creator> <pubDate>Thu, 05 Mar 2009 21:32:15 +0000</pubDate> <guid
isPermaLink="false">http://www.philebrity.com/?p=20065#comment-9708</guid> <description>Meanwhile there were two fires in South Philly yesterday.  In the one involving an illegal electrical hook up, and mother and small child died.  The other a home was destroyed.  Inqy/DN seems kinda limp in aggressively asking the question, but they do get bystanders at the scene to chime in with &quot;I wonder if the cuts to the fire dept have anything to do with the severity of the incident.&quot;  If you know a cop, firefighter, EMT, first responder etc., ask them about any given fire since January they&#039;ll tell you straight that there were 2-3 fire response vehicles that could have got there faster than the equipment that did show up to prevent the tragedy from becoming a full blown disaster (let&#039;s parenthetically mention that Philly&#039;s ambulance response time has been laughable for years).Notice how these fires are generally in poor neighborhoods?  Oh, but hey, &quot;we&quot; &quot;saved the libraries.&quot;  Guess they&#039;re fireproof or something.If you live or work in the city, you really ought to support a taxation plan that&#039;ll allow the city to pay for itself.Patricio, how much does &quot;city hall&quot; as is cost in the city budget?  I really don&#039;t know, and am curious what parts of city hall would be on the chopping block in the Patricio administration.  You&#039;re older than Larry West, right?</description> <content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>Meanwhile there were two fires in South Philly yesterday.  In the one involving an illegal electrical hook up, and mother and small child died.  The other a home was destroyed.  Inqy/DN seems kinda limp in aggressively asking the question, but they do get bystanders at the scene to chime in with &#8220;I wonder if the cuts to the fire dept have anything to do with the severity of the incident.&#8221;  If you know a cop, firefighter, EMT, first responder etc., ask them about any given fire since January they&#8217;ll tell you straight that there were 2-3 fire response vehicles that could have got there faster than the equipment that did show up to prevent the tragedy from becoming a full blown disaster (let&#8217;s parenthetically mention that Philly&#8217;s ambulance response time has been laughable for years).</p><p>Notice how these fires are generally in poor neighborhoods?  Oh, but hey, &#8220;we&#8221; &#8220;saved the libraries.&#8221;  Guess they&#8217;re fireproof or something.</p><p>If you live or work in the city, you really ought to support a taxation plan that&#8217;ll allow the city to pay for itself.</p><p>Patricio, how much does &#8220;city hall&#8221; as is cost in the city budget?  I really don&#8217;t know, and am curious what parts of city hall would be on the chopping block in the Patricio administration.  You&#8217;re older than Larry West, right?</p> ]]></content:encoded> </item> <item><title>By: lord_whimsy</title><link>http://www.philebrity.com/2009/03/05/in-one-insanely-misguided-stroke-bizarro-nutter-returns-and-re-ignites-the-decades-dormant-heftywimpy-debate/comment-page-1/#comment-9706</link> <dc:creator>lord_whimsy</dc:creator> <pubDate>Thu, 05 Mar 2009 21:18:23 +0000</pubDate> <guid
isPermaLink="false">http://www.philebrity.com/?p=20065#comment-9706</guid> <description>I&#039;m hearing rumors that they&#039;re talking about shutting down the Horticultural Center in Fairmount Park. Aloe plant, anyone?</description> <content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>I&#8217;m hearing rumors that they&#8217;re talking about shutting down the Horticultural Center in Fairmount Park. Aloe plant, anyone?</p> ]]></content:encoded> </item> <item><title>By: expat attack</title><link>http://www.philebrity.com/2009/03/05/in-one-insanely-misguided-stroke-bizarro-nutter-returns-and-re-ignites-the-decades-dormant-heftywimpy-debate/comment-page-1/#comment-9700</link> <dc:creator>expat attack</dc:creator> <pubDate>Thu, 05 Mar 2009 20:34:49 +0000</pubDate> <guid
isPermaLink="false">http://www.philebrity.com/?p=20065#comment-9700</guid> <description>@PatricioChicago is the highest taxed city in the nation, I believe.  Their sales tax alone is 10.2%.</description> <content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>@Patricio</p><p>Chicago is the highest taxed city in the nation, I believe.  Their sales tax alone is 10.2%.</p> ]]></content:encoded> </item> <item><title>By: philatrash</title><link>http://www.philebrity.com/2009/03/05/in-one-insanely-misguided-stroke-bizarro-nutter-returns-and-re-ignites-the-decades-dormant-heftywimpy-debate/comment-page-1/#comment-9698</link> <dc:creator>philatrash</dc:creator> <pubDate>Thu, 05 Mar 2009 20:13:22 +0000</pubDate> <guid
isPermaLink="false">http://www.philebrity.com/?p=20065#comment-9698</guid> <description>And by the way Patricio, those people you call &quot;boneheads&quot; were the poor and disenfranchised who were seeing many of their library branches potentially closed.  Get off your high horse.</description> <content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>And by the way Patricio, those people you call &#8220;boneheads&#8221; were the poor and disenfranchised who were seeing many of their library branches potentially closed.  Get off your high horse.</p> ]]></content:encoded> </item> <item><title>By: philatrash</title><link>http://www.philebrity.com/2009/03/05/in-one-insanely-misguided-stroke-bizarro-nutter-returns-and-re-ignites-the-decades-dormant-heftywimpy-debate/comment-page-1/#comment-9697</link> <dc:creator>philatrash</dc:creator> <pubDate>Thu, 05 Mar 2009 20:11:34 +0000</pubDate> <guid
isPermaLink="false">http://www.philebrity.com/?p=20065#comment-9697</guid> <description>Patricio, there were RATIONAL reasons behind the closings?  Oh please.  Are you on Nutter&#039;s or Siobhan Reardon&#039;s staff?  Oh, I don&#039;t know, because stifling the intellectual heritage and literacy of our city sounds like a GREAT IDEA!And where am I getting the fact that most citizens would rather see their taxes increased?  look at the results of the four city budget workshops on WHYY&#039;s It&#039;s Our City blog: http://whyy.org/blogs/itsourcity/.</description> <content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>Patricio, there were RATIONAL reasons behind the closings?  Oh please.  Are you on Nutter&#8217;s or Siobhan Reardon&#8217;s staff?  Oh, I don&#8217;t know, because stifling the intellectual heritage and literacy of our city sounds like a GREAT IDEA!</p><p>And where am I getting the fact that most citizens would rather see their taxes increased?  look at the results of the four city budget workshops on WHYY&#8217;s It&#8217;s Our City blog: <a
href="http://whyy.org/blogs/itsourcity/" rel="nofollow">http://whyy.org/blogs/itsourcity/</a>.</p> ]]></content:encoded> </item> <item><title>By: Patricio</title><link>http://www.philebrity.com/2009/03/05/in-one-insanely-misguided-stroke-bizarro-nutter-returns-and-re-ignites-the-decades-dormant-heftywimpy-debate/comment-page-1/#comment-9695</link> <dc:creator>Patricio</dc:creator> <pubDate>Thu, 05 Mar 2009 19:56:54 +0000</pubDate> <guid
isPermaLink="false">http://www.philebrity.com/?p=20065#comment-9695</guid> <description>From the poster above &quot;Your constituents would rather you raise our taxes then cut programs and institute all this BS. I think that’s a pretty amazing thing. Move on with it.&quot;Uh what?  We are already the highest taxed city in the country.  The Dude needs to streamline city hall, not raise taxes.  So many boneheads freaked out over the potential library closings but could not listen to the Dude and his administrations very rational reasons behind the (closings).Now we pay for it.</description> <content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>From the poster above &#8220;Your constituents would rather you raise our taxes then cut programs and institute all this BS. I think that’s a pretty amazing thing. Move on with it.&#8221;</p><p>Uh what?  We are already the highest taxed city in the country.  The Dude needs to streamline city hall, not raise taxes.  So many boneheads freaked out over the potential library closings but could not listen to the Dude and his administrations very rational reasons behind the (closings).</p><p>Now we pay for it.</p> ]]></content:encoded> </item> </channel> </rss>
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