Moving Right Along… Should Would Banish Commenter JBurnside?

One of the stranger tangents this election season took us down was the one wherein people that we’d never thought would read Philebrity started reading, and commenting on, Philebrity. While it’s obvious that we always love new readers, we were also a bit stymied by the onset of knee-jerk Hannity types mixing it up in the comments. Upon pondering it all, we came to the most sensible conclusion we could — having people with differing lifestyles and political persuasions going back and forth in the comments, in general, fosters robust debate, and if we are here for anything, people, we are here for the cause of Robust Debate. But in these last two weeks or so, one commenter in particular has gone above and beyond the call of asshole-duty. His name is jburnside — a reader graciously drew up the depiction you see above — and here is the rope he’s been given to hang himself:

From this post, 2008/11/05:

*****************AMERICA SHITS THE BED**********************

DUBIOUS PARENTAGE—-CHECK
ASSOCIATES WITH KNOWN TERRORISTS—–CHECK
ASSOCIATES WITH WHITE HATING LOUIS FARAKAN—–CHECK
ATTENDS A CHURCH WHICH PREACHES HATE AGAINST WHITES–CHECK

WHO KNEW THAT WHEN REV. WRIGHT SAID “NOT GOD BLESS AMERICA BUT GOD DAMN AMERICA” HE WOULD SEE HIS PRAYERS ANSWERED?

From Please Pardon The Lull In Posts, Our Brains Just Exploded, 2008/10/20:

Interesting. My ancestors were slave owners in Virginia. I have in my possesion a will transfering ownership of the family slaves from one brother to another. One thing is certain, slaves wern’t cheap. Within the will, the value of all possessions were listed and slaves were valued between 8- $10,000 a piece. Seems like a huge amount of money for the 1800’s.

From Great Moments In Justifying One’s Own Muted Racism: Citizen Mom Edition, 2008/09/06:

I grew up in the city and left shortly after Goode took office. Philly has turned into a total cesspool. It has been at least 5 years since my wife and I have gone into the city for dinner. Unfortunately, I still must enter city limits for employment purposes but I cross into the city with the same trepidation I have when entering Camden.

Lock the doors, roll up the windows and at stop lights, leave enough room between you and the car in front to make a quick escape if need be.

From Readers Write: Why Can’t We All Just Walk Along?, 2008/08/11:

don’t even get me started about Asians but I’d rather have them walking than driving

We could go on, but there’s only so many hours in the day, and the jburnside catalog of comments is long and deep. Suffice it to say that, about every third comment or so, burnside has a way of saying something unconscionably racist or stupid. So, we ask you: Is that enough to boot the man? As of this writing, we’re not convinced either way. As one commenter has already noted, his ignoble spirit embiggens even the smallest debate. As still others have put forth, maybe he’s a fake! (Although we kind of bristle at the notion of burnside being “our own Stephen Colbert,” as still some others have noted.) What we do know is this: If history has taught us nothing else, it’s that even throwing the question out there will save his ass and make him an instant micro-philebrity. Ain’t that right, Cheesesteak The Impaler?

  • iwishyouwould

    I’m indiferrent. I’ll just continue to ignore his comments, like I do with C.T.I.

    Judging from his internet demeanor, this is probably the most exciting moment of his life.

  • fractionofawhole

    Keep your friends close and keep your enemies closer. No need to ban.

  • Grapesoda

    Meh. it’s sweeney’s soap box he can do as he wishes. The guy is just a tool i’d rather him not be around but like with any troll they usually fade in time as they go to some other place that is more exciting to troll.

  • John Lightstone

    Rereading those quotes, I am more and more convinced that jburnside is Brian Tierney’s nom de guerre.

  • expat attack

    The dude’s a canker sore on the lip of humanity. Banish him and his coterie of lesbians trapped within.

  • http://bostodelphia.blogspot.com C. The Impaler

    What, no actually clickpoll?

    He already said he’s leaving, which may mean he thought he was seriously doing some “campaign work” and now that the battle’s “over” he’s done. It’s been said before the the right wing blogosphere had been enlisting people to patrol “liberal” blogs.

    I’d say keep him if he had a clue … actually not even a clue, if he just had something to say about things discussed on Philebrity besides (racial/racist) politics. I may be thought of as a jerk by a lot of readers, but at least I’m not a one note jerk.

    I’m guessing he’ll keep his head down until Obama makes a controversial move or there’s another incident that adds to the growing “evidence” of the “black on white crime trend”. Really, if that’s all he’s got to say, what’s the point of keeping him?

  • http://bostodelphia.blogspot.com C. The Impaler

    Was that a Schmitten Kitten illustration? Would’ve like to see their work up … hey, I’ll put myself up for a ban again if they do a workup of me. I actually have a collection of cartoons of my real life self, long story.

  • expat attack

    @ C. The Impaler

    That’s my handiwork. The crudeness of my artistic ability probably made him seem handsomer than he actually is though.

  • http://www.myspace.com/detoxretox Nate

    While I am a free speech advocate generally speaking, he contributes nothing to virtually any discussion (except, somehow, the one about police brutality?), and free speech only applies to public settings, so, go ahead and get rid of him if you want to.

  • A Feculent Rainbow

    “he contributes nothing to virtually any discussion”

    I’m sorry, I don’t think I have encountered more than two or three stimulating “discussions” in Philb-threads. These threads are chock full of mental diarrhea of the most superficial nature. If you guys were actually trying to curate a forum for the purpose of intellectual advancement, I would still call you a bunch of fascists (oh yeah, I inappropriately busted out the f word) for trying to suppress opinions you don’t agree with. With regard to the antagonistic nature of burnside’s comments, I hardly see the difference between his comments and 40% of the posts at this very site.

    For shame, philebrity.

    That being said, DON’T FEED THE TROLLS.

  • http://perfectlydisgraceful.typepad.com/perfectly_disgraceful/ Perfectly Disgraceful

    Yeah, if he could actually express a dissenting opinion, I’d be more inclined to think he should stay. But random racist and insulting comments? Eh, who needs it?

  • Tvox

    Isn’t One Note Jerk doing a residency at the Khyber this month?

  • ride1076

    I think it would be amusing if he was allowed to stay but no one ever responded to his comments. Then we can observe a change in them (or I can, because I also think this would be amusing), like from contrary and outlandish to a deflated “Um, ok, I’ll be over here if anyone needs me” kind of tone. And then he just might go away on his own.

  • http://bostodelphia.blogspot.com C. The Impaler

    @Feculent: 40% of the posts on this site aren’t ugly race baiting b.s. You’re doing the equivalent of putting Mad Magazine and the John Birch Society on the same level.

    I wouldn’t call what goes on here “intellectual” but the discussions or “chatter” is still relatively civil and there’s a definite difference between what burnie spits out and what you or I may dump on here.

    Expat, nice work.

  • jburnside

    Expat my own interweb archivist says…

    “The dude’s a canker sore on the lip of humanity. Banish him and his coterie of lesbians trapped within.”

    If you banish me at least save the coterie lesbos

  • buddy

    too long have reasonable people stood idly by and let blatant hate filled retards find voice on the same level as model respectful citizens. I say ear toss…but only cause I’m a liberal elitist.

  • http://bostodelphia.blogspot.com C. The Impaler

    I got it, can we banish him to Conrad or Conroy or whatever his name is’s blog (does it still exist)? He’d actually raise the “intellectual tenor” to the “discussion” there; and he may promise to be nice as he begs to be let back in here.

  • expat attack

    In the spirit of our newly improved nation, I believe the proper response to wondering whether or not to banish jburnside is:

    Yes we can.

    @jburnside

    Don’t use words you that don’t you understand. Using the Google to look up coterie right now doesn’t count either.

  • Timo

    Has anyone seen JBurnide and Keith Peirce in the same room, at the same time? Hmmmm.

  • jburnside

    dear expat kindly forgive my typing indiscretion and failure to get the word “of” inserted between coterie and lesbos. I tried mightily to stop the post so i could insert it but, off it went. So goes life here in the 21st century. Small people with little dicks find small things to nitpick.

    On another note, have you noticed how the stock market took a shit when the Messiah won? Oddly, the mainstream press has not uttered a word about it. Oh yeah, if anyone possesses a fat 401K, you might think about filtering it out of the country before it gets “nationalized”

  • Timo

    The Dow has lost 5500 points since last November. Yesterday’s sell off was due to the comparative run-up the past few weeks. It was Profit Taking. The stock market, historically rises during Democratic adminstrations at a higher rate that with Republicans.

  • Grapesoda

    lol @ jburnside

    “Small people with little dicks find small things to nitpick.”

    and how do you know this factual evidence? First hand knowledge?

    “Tried to stop mightly” what are you on a 2400 baud modem with a actual delay on your connection? ha ha. You’re such a tool.

  • Grapesoda

    jojo I’d like to in true democrat nature change my mind after becoming more informed of a non-vote to a vote of kick em.

    boom.

  • jburnside

    The Dow has lost 5500 points since last November. Yesterday’s sell off was due to the comparative run-up the past few weeks. It was Profit Taking. The stock market, historically rises during Democratic adminstrations at a higher rate that with Republicans.

    nice try Timo. The market was reacting to a bad for business President elect.

    Oh, on an up note, Ann Coulter has a new book coming out.

  • http://www.myspace.com/detoxretox Nate

    Right, because the market hadn’t already priced a 98.9% chance (per 538) that it was going to be Obama. The market doesn’t look forward, it was totally surprised by the outcome. You’ve got to be kidding me.

  • A Feculent Rainbow

    @ Impaler:

    I should clarify; apples and oranges, yes. However, he is just using what he/she believes is the most effective means of agitation. All I’m trying to say Philebs talks shit 40% of time. Though Phileb content may not be racist, I hardly believe that Philebs is credible enough to act like it deserves to be shielded from assholes’ opinions. Let the dude make an ass out of himself and stop feeding the trolls.

    On a side note – weren’t we on a similar page on the “Sarah Palin is a Cunt” issue? Correct me if I’m wrong.

    @ Buddy:

    “model respectful citizens” probably don’t use words like “retards.”

  • Timo

    Burnsy, even the Bolsheviks at The Wall Street Journal say it’s because of the dismal Job report due out tomorrow:

    http://online.wsj.com/article/SB122597213940304699.html

  • expat attack

    On top of the racism and sheer stupidity lets not forgot jburnside’s equally obnoxious homophobia in his posts:

    “I’m keepin you freaks honest and on your toes.:)

    I still wouldn’t pick up a dollar off the ground in front of you though.”

    My hunch is it’s more of a Ted Haggard/Larry Craig denial kind of swagger though. I mean, who the fuck says that shit? Or better put, what man who’s confident in his heterosexuality does?

    @tips

    When do we get our tally and decision?

  • Grapesoda

    expat. We’re in total agreeance….i said the same thing on the post jojo linked. Who the hell even says that? So odd.

  • chuck63

    So…is this the bottom line? – “I don’t like what he says nor how he says it.” Seems like a weak reason to bar someone from a Comments page.

  • http://bostodelphia.blogspot.com C. The Impaler

    Conversely, chuck63, it’s also a weak reason to keep someone on. I see a good comments page as something like a letters to the editor page with looser rules for the correspondents. Philebrity is arguably an online community, and while it can get foul and raunchy, there are still some standards maintained within the community. I mean, I can see the perverse, morbid curiosity in keeping jburnside around, but is he really all that interesting other than an instantiation supporting a generally held stereotype? I mean, you can find his rhetorical mirror posted in the comments to every single article on philly.com.

    If he really thinks he’s waging cultural warfare or whatever, no one’s stopping him from building his own platform. Of course, nor is anyone here going to stop Sweeney from keeping him around to draw irate traffic.