Comments on: Milton Street On The Class Of ‘07: All Y’All Are House Ni**ers! Some Of You Might Be Dumb, Too!

By: hewhoknowsall

hewhoknowsall — Sun, 18 Feb 2007 23:10:08 +0000

This sounds like a city council meeting!

By: EastChestnut

EastChestnut — Sat, 17 Feb 2007 19:59:57 +0000

Pahleez people.

You want to see some real racism, I’ll have Shirley Q. Liquor move to Philadelphia and run against Jannie Blackwell.

Milton and Shirley Q. are running the city! That’s right!

Oh my goodness. So where do I send Michael Nutter to so he can get “more black enough” praytell? After all, it’s not about crime, violence, high business taxes… no it’s about a mayor that needs to keep it real, and Nutter isn’t that man.

Maybe I can fit Nutter in some contact lenses and a State Property jacket ala Beanie and we can be rest assured our ward leaders will go for the right man for the job? Is that what it takes?

I don’t know what’s worse… our politician’s outlook on Philadelphians, or Philadelphians themselves.

By: mitchconnor

mitchconnor — Fri, 16 Feb 2007 23:14:20 +0000

Gon’ do it. What am I doing? I’m going to say that this discussion has gotten asinine by now, though good points have been made. Mr. Boring: Everyone except you seems to realize that Milton Street actually used racial epithets in the past and in the present. To report on such things is not cowardly or dishonest. Let it go. Everyone else: Mr. Boring keeps saying the same thing over and over again. Let him go.

Can we agree that Milton Street is a balls-to-the-wall nutjob who would do nothing more than continue the political crookedness of Philadelphia and leave it at that? Oh, and can we laugh at his antics in the process, via Philebrity or otherwise? Is this okay?

According to Milt the non-Stilt, Michael Nutter is not Black enough, Dwight Evans is not brave enough, and Bob Brady is not smart enough. I guess Uncle Milty has all of these traits and then some. A steady diet of McDonald’s and corruption will do that for you.

By: dougwallen

dougwallen — Fri, 16 Feb 2007 22:34:05 +0000

“Chris Rock can write a headline like the one above, but you guys can��t.”

isn’t telling someone what they can’t write or joke about sorta like the death of everything?

By: dmac

dmac — Fri, 16 Feb 2007 21:32:10 +0000

Not sure if Joey knew this or not, but here's a line from the Daily News career highlights of Milton Street (which is a fantastic read, by the way):

1982 - Milton unsuccessfully challenges U.S. Rep Bill Gray in one of the nastiest elections in memory. He calls Gray "an Uncle Tom and a house n----... controlled by white people."

By: mr. boring

mr. boring — Fri, 16 Feb 2007 20:33:54 +0000

what i’m getting at, is that there is a difference between hip hop dialect intergrating into white society and some asshole “talking black” around white people. There is nothing wrong with someone being a product of their environment. I’ve taught in North Philly and, imo, it is socially acceptable for a ten year old white kid (who grows up amongst a majority of blacks) to say just about anything except the n word. Those kids are genuine. Philebrity is not. It is mockery and all their hip hop slang is inauthentic.

By: C. The Impaler

C. The Impaler — Fri, 16 Feb 2007 19:20:33 +0000

Is Joey a race traitor for typing this way? Is that what Boring’s getting at?

By: C. The Impaler

C. The Impaler — Fri, 16 Feb 2007 19:19:44 +0000

Boring, what sort of segregated white power company do you keep? Hip hop lingo is pervasive in popular culture. I mean I think even Martha Stewart has admitted to “feeling it” now and then. This isn’t plain and simple at all.

Think of it this way, when Ving Rhames banishes Bruce Willis from L.A. and talks about how he’s going to get a bunch of “pipe hitting motherfuckers” to go to town on their former torturer, that’s Quentin Tarrantino writing those lines. If you watch interviews with Tarrantino, he’s got a manic speech style that will riff off the black idiom. In a more vanilla way, Robin Williams does this too. Neither of those guys are unique instances of “language transgression.” Not sure what monastery you’re posting from, but “black talk” in “white culture” is pretty pervasive except for mainstream news outlets, legislative sessions, etc.

By: mr. boring

mr. boring — Fri, 16 Feb 2007 19:06:27 +0000

ashy- why should there be a difference in the way you write and speak, if by difference, you are not talking about being articulate or poetic, but ATTEMPTING to sound like someone of a different race and culture? that is mockery plain and simple. i’m sure philebrity was thrilled to blast the blackface pimp and ho parties, yet it continues to use hip hop slang, even though its obvious the authors are as white as my computer screen.

impaler- i agree with most of what you just said except the part about Philebrity’s blackface being culturally typical. i guess it depends on the company you keep.

By: ashy

ashy — Fri, 16 Feb 2007 18:48:07 +0000

Mr Boring, perhaps its just me, but I certainly don’t see how Philebrity is writing in the style of an “edgy black writer.” Philebrity does indeed have a white identity, but it comments on the socio-political developments of a multi-racial city. Plus, I certainly think there is a clear distinction between writing commentary for a blog/alt-weekly/newspaper and what said writer would use in conversation. I can’t think of one writer or journalist, that speaks the exact same way they write. Finally, Freeway certainly doesn’t represent the totality of black culture to me.